Originally Posted by HawkOwl

Thanks for getting us back on my original track. Gene manipulation to change food is a long standing practice. If people want to really get in discussion maybe someone would start a thread on that? It pertains to our health and ability to fully enjoy our cycling sport.

Back to my original question: From what I saw Oz wasn't making and weight loss claims. He was claiming the extract converted fat to glucose and so reduced the amount of fat in the body. By reducing the amount of fat a person would start "thinkin lean" and become more active. Being more active would bring weight loss and better health. The claim was 100mg/day was the same as eating 90# of rasberries. And yes, he was talking about extract not juice.