Yes, I heard the formation faces were pretty good too. I may use those when its time for a new set of wheels on my track bike.

I mainly like to go on fast paced rides, general training, and to have fun. I dont race(not yet anyway). So I figured that I should build a set of wheels for my road bike that are strong instead of light. If there is such a noticeable weight different between the wheels I have now and the wheels I want to build, I will just have to train and get faster on the heavier, but stronger wheelset. LOL. The last thing I need is to get 20+miles from home and have rims warping and spokes popping.

Since my wheels on my road bike are jacked up right now, I have actually been training on my fixed gear track bike on the road. LOL. Talk about fun!