Geez you lot are smarter than you look.

Good to hear it's pretty common and none of you have carked from it yet. Might have to go see the doctor about it anyway. Sin't it the go for all the pros to chug on the old ventolin for a few hours before their races? If it's good enough for them it's good enough for me.

So Tigerboy. What you know about making touring frames? Would you knock me out something that looks like a chopper or what?