Originally Posted by dvald001

I think the VO's Campeur makes a pretty nice Rivendell-on-a-Budget. It has lots of tire clearance, it's easy to get the handlebars high, and it's all steel. Personally, I prefer a good bike in the 1000-2000 price range to one that's 3-4k. If a bike is too expensive I think it'd be hard for me not to worry about it, which would make it less fun for me. I'm just not at that income level where I could shrug off a 3k loss, but I could grit my teeth through losing my Campeur if it got wrecked or stolen.