Originally Posted by corwin1968

I recently listened to a new radio interview with Grant and it seems his (and Rivendell's) new thing is long chainstays. Riv's tend to have longer chainstays already but he was talking in the 50+ centimeter range. He commented that when you get to that length, "good things start to happen". I assume much of this is based on their experience with the Joe Appaloosa bike that Grant designed and sold, sight unseen, to ten customers. Last I heard they planned to make it a production model next year so they are obviously quite impressed with it. The cargo bike you mention reminded me of the Appaloosa, albeit a bit longer in length.