What exactly is libertarian views to you? The reason to have more freedoms is Libertarian to you? I thought that was provided for us in our constitution and bill of rights? But back to the more pertinent post debate, you like the fact some politician is telling you that you should wear seat belts? Yet, you have a problem with that when it comes to helmets? Do you hear yourself thinking? or do you just blab along? Which are you? for or against safety regs like requiring seat belts and helmets or not requiring either? Would you prefer a law that gives motorists a zero alcohol tolerance so if you blow a .001 you go to jail? But that's where we're heading because we have allowed the government to control us to the point that they tell us to wear a seat belt or not. (I drink very little, maybe a beer or two a year, so I'm not defending the right to drink and drive, in fact I had a close friend die from a drunk driver and I was hurt by one, so I'm really against it but within reason and I think the new .05 law is where is should remain and not needed to go lower).

Actually the word I used that got stared out was not profanity but the mods didn't like it, just think highly mentally backwards and I think you'll get the 5 letter word with an ed at the end that I used.

And fundamentalist religion discussion out of what I said? What planet do you come from? Seriously, how did you come up with that? All I said was either have laws that require helmets much in the same way they have laws requiring seat belts or have none at all for either. Do I have a preference? Sure, I prefer that if I'm an adult I should have the right to choose, I choose as an adult to either buy or not buy alcoholic beverages, to watch or not watch porn, to smoke or not to smoke, to watch tv or not, to buy from China or not, to walk barefoot or not...get the idea? If I chose to drink and drive and hurt or kill someone then I chose to accept the consequences of the full extent of the law, just as I chose not to wear a seat belt and have an accident I chose to accept whatever the consequences of that will be, same with a helmet, why? Because I'm an adult I can make those decisions on my own and know the consequences of those decisions. Thats not libertarian that's just being a free adult, and as a free adult I chose to wear my seatbelt when driving and wear my helmet when riding...and I don't care if you chose not to. What I do care about is someone using a few weak and unsubstantiated claims that something is unsafe or useless when years of substantiated studies from huge number of resources prove otherwise.