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The helmet thread

Old 10-03-14, 12:51 PM
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And I "get" that. I just think it's a shame to let one post be the end of a useful thread. In most threads, a single "bad" post will get removed, rather than cause the lockdown of the entire thread. (This is why the 41 continues to function, as far as I can tell.)

But helmet threads don't get the same treatment. And again, I understand why - and I think the mods around here generally do a very good job - but if I was king of the internet, I'd back down on the helmet thread scrutiny just a degree or two.
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Old 10-03-14, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Six jours View Post
And I "get" that. I just think it's a shame to let one post be the end of a useful thread. In most threads, a single "bad" post will get removed, rather than cause the lockdown of the entire thread. (This is why the 41 continues to function, as far as I can tell.)

But helmet threads don't get the same treatment. And again, I understand why - and I think the mods around here generally do a very good job - but if I was king of the internet, I'd back down on the helmet thread scrutiny just a degree or two.
It is ironic that the emotional, irrational passion of the helmet proselytizers that polluted so many threads it caused the mods to quarantine such posts and rantings to a single thread is similar to the emotional, irrational passion of the vehicular cyclist proselytizers whose posts polluted so many threads that it caused the mods to quarantine their posts and rantings to a single thread.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
It is ironic that the emotional, irrational passion of the helmet proselytizers that polluted so many threads it caused the mods to quarantine such posts and rantings to a single thread is similar to the emotional, irrational passion of the vehicular cyclist proselytizers whose posts polluted so many threads that it caused the mods to quarantine their posts and rantings to a single thread.
Also ironic -- considering your post -- that the most recent thread lock was due to the emotional, irrational passion of a bare-head proselytizer who apparently just couldn't stand that there was a perfectly rational, informational, non-argumentative thread about helmets going on outside Helmet Thread.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
Also ironic -- considering your post -- that the most recent thread lock was due to the emotional, irrational passion of a bare-head proselytizer who apparently just couldn't stand that there was a perfectly rational, informational, non-argumentative thread about helmets going on outside Helmet Thread.
Test done -- emotional, irrational bare-head proselytizers lose.

Two threads:

1) Looking into buying first helmet...

2) What hat to wear?

First thread, made it to 23 posts, day 3 or existence before a bare-header couldn't help but shut it down with helmet argumentative stuff known to either lock a thread or get such moved to helmet thread, at post #24 . There were a couple of pro-helmet statements and a couple of anti-helmet statements in among the previous comments before the one which got the thread locked.

Second thread, up to 36 posts and still going, day 5 of existence. Couple of muted pro-helmet posts, and one which should have been contentious enough for a lock or a move -- " I hide my due [sic] rags under a bicycle helmet which really does protect my noggin (and my brain) But if you don't think your brain is worth protecting.... you likely know best. " -- at post #32 .

So, contrary to opinion expressed by ILTB, above, looks like bare-head fanatacism turns out to be way more dooshy here in A&S than the pro-helmet variety.
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Old 10-07-14, 01:54 PM
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I think most people "know" or at least suspect that the "What hat to wear" thread is a test, thus refrain from preaching to the quire...
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Originally Posted by 350htrr View Post
I think most people "know" or at least suspect that the "What hat to wear" thread is a test, thus refrain from preaching to the quire...
Shh!

But also, it didn't stop a couple snipes...
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Originally Posted by 350htrr View Post
I think most people "know" or at least suspect that the "What hat to wear" thread is a test, thus refrain from preaching to the quire...
It could have been a straight forward thread discussing regular hats, and not helmets. It should be possible to discuss head covers or without it becoming about helmets. One can even have head "protection" besides impact protection such as UV protection for the hair disadvantaged.

I didn't track the thread, but it seems to be staying put for now, which is good news.

On the other hand, even here on BF there few who'd bother preaching to a small packet of paper, although many would preach to those who sing in church.

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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
Test done -- emotional, irrational bare-head proselytizers lose.

Two threads:

1) Looking into buying first helmet...

2) What hat to wear?

First thread, made it to 23 posts, day 3 or existence before a bare-header couldn't help but shut it down with helmet argumentative stuff known to either lock a thread or get such moved to helmet thread, at post #24 . There were a couple of pro-helmet statements and a couple of anti-helmet statements in among the previous comments before the one which got the thread locked.

Second thread, up to 36 posts and still going, day 5 of existence. Couple of muted pro-helmet posts, and one which should have been contentious enough for a lock or a move -- " I hide my due [sic] rags under a bicycle helmet which really does protect my noggin (and my brain) But if you don't think your brain is worth protecting.... you likely know best. " -- at post #32 .

So, contrary to opinion expressed by ILTB, above, looks like bare-head fanatacism turns out to be way more dooshy here in A&S than the pro-helmet variety.
Well, since rydabent, et al have been asleep at the switch,

I'll have to gear up with some sock accounts and hit all the bullet points:

- Darwin
- If you value what's in your skull
- Organ Donor
- My wife's best friend is an ER nurse...

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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
It could have been a straight forward thread discussing regular hats, and not helmets. It should be possible to discuss head covers or without it becoming about helmets. One can even have heat "protection" besides impact protection such as UV protection for the hair disadvantaged.

I didn't track the thread, but it seems a shame that it ended up here.

On the other hand, even here on BF there few who'd bother preaching to a small packet of paper, although many would preach to those who sing in church.
Bla,Bla Bla... or is it Bhaaa, Bhaaa, Bhaaa... Your choice. I meant the singing group.
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Originally Posted by 350htrr View Post
Bla,Bla Bla... or is it Bhaaa, Bhaaa, Bhaaa... Your choice. I meant the singing group.
i gathered that, but given the tenor of the helmet thread, I couldn't resist joining the nitpickers.
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. . .I didn't track the thread, but it seems a shame that it ended up here . . . .
It didn't. It's still in A&S
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Here's one: Helmet Headlight Recommendations. I should have that one closed and redirected here within the hour.
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Originally Posted by tractorlegs View Post
It didn't. It's still in A&S

So it is. As I said, I wasn't tracking it, and was mislead by the reference to it in the helmet thread. Thanks, (I've edited the post)
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
So, contrary to opinion expressed by ILTB, above, looks like bare-head fanatacism turns out to be way more dooshy here in A&S than the pro-helmet variety.
My opinion perhaps wasn't expressed clearly enough. Nobody is more dooshy (i.e. irrationally positive that their own B.S. is validated because of their belief in it) than True Believers in Vehicular Cycling training, though helmet proselytizers work hard at catching up.

The previously identified poster doubled down on posting dooshness with a silly willy post gratuitously stirring up two hornets nests.
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Wear a helmet, still die from TBI:

Man dies from injuries from bicycle accident
September 23. 2014

TROY A Dayton man died from injuries he sustained from a collision with another cyclist on the bike path in Troy on Aug. 17.

David Perilman, 60, of Dayton, passed away on Sept. 20 from the brain injuries he sustained after colliding with another cyclist on the bike path last month.

...

Authorities said both men were wearing helmets and safety gear and no alcohol or drugs were involved.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
Test done -- emotional, irrational bare-head proselytizers lose.

Two threads:

1) Looking into buying first helmet...

2) What hat to wear?

First thread, made it to 23 posts, day 3 or existence before a bare-header couldn't help but shut it down with helmet argumentative stuff known to either lock a thread or get such moved to helmet thread, at post #24 . There were a couple of pro-helmet statements and a couple of anti-helmet statements in among the previous comments before the one which got the thread locked.

Second thread, up to 36 posts and still going, day 5 of existence. Couple of muted pro-helmet posts, and one which should have been contentious enough for a lock or a move -- " I hide my due [sic] rags under a bicycle helmet which really does protect my noggin (and my brain) But if you don't think your brain is worth protecting.... you likely know best. " -- at post #32 .

So, contrary to opinion expressed by ILTB, above, looks like bare-head fanatacism turns out to be way more dooshy here in A&S than the pro-helmet variety.
Yeah, I don't know, mate. Looks to me like both threads went about the same distance before somebody chimed in with the usual nonsense. The difference is that around here pro-helmet nonsense is better tolerated than anti-helmet nonsense. Or maybe just that everyone with a brain knew what you were up to in the first place, Captain Obvious.
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Captain Obvious.
Drat. Need a troll sock...
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This thread has gotten too long and cumbersome - therefore we are starting a new Helmet thread.

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