keep in mind i'm 6'1 and 250 lbs (down 30 but still FAR too fat). it was originally a social ride, tho. They're good people, i just get frustrated at times. The "scene" here is, as far as I know it, is "fixed gear and others with loads of goodwill doing longish social rides [meaning 10-20 mile rides]" and "paceline hardasses going [longer] at +20 mph averages" that I just. cannot. do. There's not a lot of different cohorts of riders going at different paces for varied distances here, it's sort of roadie or not, and then you take what you can get. It varies based on who shows up. I envy the Californians. You guys got a ride where you go hardish, fixed, for 15-20 miles and then drink IPAs? (I would probably get dropped anyways)?