I'm not looking for the same position both ways cyclezen. I'd rather use the drops for a lower more aggressive position.

I was experimenting with the shorter stem thinking it would improve my position in the drops. It feels like it did but objectively the reach is pretty short so I'll probably switch back to the 120 mm stem and ditch the ergo shaped bars, unless I happen to adjust better to the hoods the way it is now.

People say not to adjust reach with the saddle but I'm tempted to move it back a cm or so since it's slightly forward as it is, and see how that affects the situation.