Originally Posted by
chaadster
I don't see your lock anywhere listed there, so where do you get off saying it's more secure, or even that the 6400 Bordo is not comparable to the Futura 64?
You're just a loose cannon as far as I can tell, who likes to spout off a lot of unsubstantiated, and most importantly, OFF TOPIC opinions. You haven't made, and I suspect cannot make, a useful suggestion to meet the OPs request, can you? You make up weights, you make up security levels...what's next?
Put up or shut up, is my closing thought to you.
If you read my first post, I did suggest to the OP what I thought would be the best solution for him: If he wants lightweight and *secure*, the OP should get some good quality locking skewers (OnGuard or Pinhead) for his wheels and a top-of-the-line U-lock (Abus, OnGuard, Kryptonite). Additionally he can get a flex cable like the Kryptonite 4' cable and string that through his wheels as well. The flex cable would not resist bolt cutters (like the Tigr) but it would provide an additional layer of security that might deter a thief. Since weight is a factor I suggested the lock I use, the Abus Futura Mini.
You're correct that the Abus Granit Futura 64 Mini has not yet been rated by Stichting Art. According to mechanics at my LBS it is marketed as the same security level as the Kryptonite Series 4 Evo Mini (3 stars on Stichting Art). The Futura Mini is rated 11/15 on Abus' own rating system. They definitely make more secure locks like the Granit X. The main advantage is the light weight and that the Futura 64 Mini does not have a bent foot design like the Kryptonite, I have both locks so I definitely say the Abus has a much better locking mech. Here is a review of the Abus Futura Mini: http://road.cc/content/review/34832-...ra-mini-u-lock
The Abus 401/130HB 140 U-Mini ($60, lower on the Abus hierarchy than the Futura Mini) is rated by Abus as 10/15 and that one has a Sold Secure Gold rating, to give you the idea of the security of their U-locks.
I mostly linked the Stichting Art rating results because you can see even mid-range quality U-locks such as the Kryptonite Series 4 ($70) have a better rating than the Tigr lock.
I'm not sure why my opinions on the low security of the Tigr lock are so offensive to you? I mean to the point where you tell another user to shut up? And also you have to resort to insulting me and disparaging my opinions? Since you still think I am making up the weight of the Abus Futura Mini, here is a pic.
Last edited by ahuynh; 09-25-13 at 09:44 PM.