Originally Posted by
ahuynh
If you read my first post, I did suggest to the OP what I thought would be the best solution for him: If he wants lightweight and *secure*, the OP should get some good quality locking skewers (OnGuard or Pinhead) for his wheels and a top-of-the-line U-lock (Abus, OnGuard, Kryptonite). Additionally he can get a flex cable like the Kryptonite 4' cable and string that through his wheels as well. The flex cable would not resist bolt cutters (like the Tigr) but it would provide an additional layer of security that might deter a thief. Since weight is a factor I suggested the lock I use, the Abus Futura Mini.
You're correct that the Abus Granit Futura 64 Mini has not yet been rated by Stichting Art. According to mechanics at my LBS it is marketed as the same security level as the Kryptonite Series 4 Evo Mini (3 stars on Stichting Art). The Futura Mini is rated 11/15 on Abus' own rating system. They definitely make more secure locks like the Granit X. The main advantage is the light weight and that the Futura 64 Mini does not have a bent foot design like the Kryptonite, I have both locks so I definitely say the Abus has a much better locking mech. Here is a review of the Abus Futura Mini: http://road.cc/content/review/34832-...ra-mini-u-lock
The Abus 401/130HB 140 U-Mini ($60, lower on the Abus hierarchy than the Futura Mini) is rated by Abus as 10/15 and that one has a Sold Secure Gold rating, to give you the idea of the security of their U-locks.
I mostly linked the Stichting Art rating results because you can see even mid-range quality U-locks such as the Kryptonite Series 4 ($70) have a better rating than the Tigr lock.
I'm not sure why my opinions on the low security of the Tigr lock are so offensive to you? I mean to the point where you tell another user to shut up? And also you have to resort to insulting me and disparaging my opinions? Since you still think I am making up the weight of the Abus Futura Mini, here is a pic.
I'm chapped with you because in
every single post you've made, you've made inaccurate, misleading, unsubstantiated claims and comparisons.
In your mind, you liken the TiGr to a cable lock, but in reality, it shares the same ART certified security level rating with one of the locks that ABUS, using their website configurator tool, recommends for highest risk lockup scenarios, the Bordo X-Plus 6500. The configurator, by the way, does not include your lock in those results. Here's the link, go try it:
http://www.abus.com/eng/Service/Conf...ity/Bike-Locks
It may be an oversight that Futura 64 isn't in the search results, but I don't see anywhere on the ABUS site their own security rating system you refer to either, so I don't know where you're getting the notion your lock is so secure.
I'll go on to point out that, linking through ABUS's site, you can see that same Bordo X Plus 6500 with the same ART rating as the TiGr, also took top honors in the folding lock category by the same people who did the TiGr video, Stiftung Warentest:
http://www.abus.com/eng/Guide/Checke...tung-Warentest
Let me spell out what all of this means: credible sources (i.e. not my opinion, not yours) including the manufacturer, have a top-rated and recommended for high risk lockup scenario lock, the Bordo X Plus 6500, that shares the same rating for level of security, according to what may be the premier 3rd party bicycle lock certification agency, ART, as the TiGr lock. In short, the TiGr is as secure as one of ABUS's top locks.
And so what is your basis for comparing the TiGr security level to a Krypto cable's? Your own ignorance is all. You simply don't understand the video you watched that's informing your opinions. It may be that the Bordo X Plus 6500 succumbed to the same bolt cutters in the video; it may be the Futura 64 succumbed to even smaller bolt cutters; maybe those bolt cutters in the vid are SW's ultimate test. Maybe the point of the video may not be to impugn the TiGr's security, but to point out that among locks of similar security, the TiGr is relatively expensive. The video did open with a bold graphic showing €180. I don't know the answer to those questions, in part because I don't speak German. Do you? Can you answer those questions?