Originally Posted by acidfast7

In most cultures that I've interacted with, it's considered normal good manners not to insult someone as part of a first encounter, but that's neither here nor there within the context of this thread.

I do find your anger toward such bikes, and toward me in general, somewhat pathetic and slightly disturbing if you have a family.

As I said before, I'd appreciate it if you didn't continue to reduce the signal:noise ratio of the thread.

Originally Posted by acidfast7

Not sure what happens in the US anymore (thankfully!)