Old 01-31-14 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
So I used to race in toe clips. Nylon or metal cleat nailed into the bottom of my Sidi and Detto Pietro bike shoes. They looked like ballet slippers with a hard sole. Slide the foot into the clip, down goes your heel into the cleat pull that strap and you are connected and not coming off the bike.
It is much easier to dial in proper fit today.
Also, those old cleats did not offer float. Thus, a guy like me finds float annoying and uncomfortable.
However, I was carefully measured for my shoe/cleat setup including a shim under the cleat to level things out.

If you are a do-it-yourselfer, you'll hurt yourself before you get the setup right.

If you, like me actually go to people for help , well I have seven pairs of shoes from three manufacturers any of which can be ridden because my setup is the same.


I just cannot stand to have my foot wallowing around in the pedal, but your mileage may vary.

BTW, I come from an era where we played lots of sports, and I played hockey and soccer so my knees are not the best, but my setup does not bother me in the least.

I tell folks who are getting into clipless to get it setup properly. The fastest way, other than crashing to hurt yourself is with bad shoe/cleat setups.

And my feet do not go numb when I ride.
Good post from a man that knows and that is you. We each tend to view from our own particular lens. Of course you see a lot of average weekend guys come into your shop and I see them out on the road with their poor pedal strokes. A bit of chicken and egg at play. What comes first?...a good pedal stroke or a good cleat alignment with tight float adjustment. Of course there is an intersection of each. But for a guy with a less than pristine pedal stroke which makes up the vast majority of the cycling public, tight float will not be good for their knees. This is for the simple fact that a knee that moves laterally throughout the stroke will rotate the foot and this will side load the knee. This is why I espouse more float for the average rider. Not for you of course. Btw, my stroke I would say is good...perhaps very good for an amateur. But when I get out of the saddle, I prefer more float because by feet rotate more toe out. So for even a guy like me who doesn't have your racing pedigree but is an experienced cyclist, for me at least, I like the 'concept' of more float because I don't want any lateral loading of my knees. But yes, the iceskating reference of speedplay pedals opened up for float is an acquired taste which over time disappears.
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