I agree with this, neither the Atlantis, Sam or even the Rivendell are not really made for heavy long distance type of expedition touring, if you want that kind of bike you need to look at the Koga Miyata World Traveler, Bruce Gordon Rock N Roll Tour EX, or the Thorn Raven. However in todays world camping gear is getting lighter all the time, and to have a bike the caliper of the Koga Miyata, Bruce Gordon, or the Thorn is an overkill for a huge percentage of tourers, unless they simply want the best and price is no object. I still think though that for most people the Kona Sutra would serve any person wanting to tourer for an extended time perfectly fine.