Originally Posted by seypat

In all seriousness, probably a good topic for discussion and not limited to cycling. I watched my father go through the same situations on the golf course. It eventually led us to quit playing together after 30-40 years of sharing the game. The split came about because of his desire to stay competitive. When he started playing the up tees, then all of the trouble he couldn't reach suddenly came into play. So his scores got worse. Then he started switching between the tees according to the trouble on the hole. It was all about "keeping the box" and winning some money for him. But he didn't have the game anymore. I was treating it as a casual affair. But he didn't want that. Friction ensued. So I told him that if that was important to him that he needed to find a like minded bunch so he could still be in the hunt and get to crow about it. We went our separate ways and haven't played together since. That's been over 5 years ago.