Thanks RD and Bruce!

And you know what's occurred to me through this short sampling of bibs?...once the fit specs of shorts get the fitment aspect of "torso length" added into the mix?...the "one size fits all" Deal goes out the window and now two body fit dimensions need to be taken into consideration along with..."The feeling of... THE CUT OF THE GARMENT"...which can and apparently does span the same across the board range of fitment falling solidly into the same category as saddles or even your favorite brand/cut of jeans...where far more needs to be taken into consideration as it's no longer a case of..."one size fits all stretchy shorts".

Which makes my mind beg the question....

I wonder how many "try" just a pair or two before writing them off only to become life long bib haters?...because if nothing else?...just how much comfort and fit difference there is between these two brands/cuts of these same size bibs?...has been a very enlightening experience for me.