The rims are shot, lots of wear so time for some new ones.....I could service the hubs and have a new wheel built with the same rims, but that's no fun. I was maybe thinking of some HED Ardennes rims or something as wide to see if they live up to the hype, but I don't think they make them with enough holes for my Dura-Ace hubs. The Open Pros are old fashioned. I don't necessarily want lighter, maybe just a bit wider.