Yeah, riv isn't afraid to tell people that if they want a cheaper option to go to Surley or Linus or Soma. Around my area, which is western Kentucky, I can find old Trek mountain bikes for 50 buck, but I would imagine San Fran availability is different. It seems like there could be slim pickins on it. I'm kind of the dude who doesn't want to spend a weekend resurrecting an 80's garage find, rather I would be happier building a bike that fits me using modern components. One of the aspects I appreciate with the Riv frames I've bought is that I don't have to deal with weird bottom bracket standards and can find a plethora of components to fit without resorting to resetting the spacing or other weirdness. I'm just not that much of a tinkerer, even though I prefer to build my bikes.

A lot of Rivs seem to be built up using lower shelf components that actually work well and are less expensive, but weigh more; that seems to be a Riv philosophy. I mean, Grant is pushing the Altus derailer for the clems. The frames don't seem to be all that heavier than other steel frame offerings, although Riv certainly doesn't put much stock into weight savings. It certainly isn't a motivating factor when one is purchasing a Riv.

I built my Roadeo using Ultegra 6800 and a modern wheelset, but with a lugged quill stem because it looks cool albeit heavier. Most of the weight of a bike comes from component choices though and I could have easily made the Roadeo heavier and probably could still make it lighter if I cared. I just wanted a quick, modern-ish, comfortable, steel bike I could hang with the group or do some long solo rides with. The Roadeo fits that bill pretty well for me.