Well, this isn't about 13lb bikes, it was simply about shaving a pound or so off with wheels. (again, made negligible by any number of things you eat, don't crap, carry in your pocket, on your bars, in your bottles, etc.)
And if all we do is climb, accelerate, and go at speed (whatever that speed may be). Then what in the world else is there to feel in a bike......eh eh....wait for it.....that would have to do with WEIGHT?
FWIW, I've ridden a 14lb carbon full-race beast that was (well, "felt") quick off the line, but so does my 25lb hybrid when I take off in 28/28.
And as has been proven ad nauseum here and virtually every other place on the internet.....it doesn't matter where the weight is added or taken away.....it *is* the same. Nobody likes to hear that and I'm about 99.9% sure it's the reason we're all looking to lighten our bikes by less than 10% despite that net result being probably less than 1% of the total weight package.
But I'm also still not hearing a good argument for what a lighter wheelset gains us.
Originally Posted by
rpenmanparker
You are totally ignoring the fact the weight of bikes and bicycle wheels affects the riding experience in ways that rider weight have no effect on. I'm not talking about acceleration or climbing efficiency or anything that would be affected by rider weight as well as bike weight. I am talking about how the bicycle feels when you ride it. If you have never ridden a bike weighing 13 lb or less, you don't have enough information to sensibly comment. And of course, the condition of one's colon will be what it is regardless of the condition of one's bike. The two are not in any way interdependent.
I ride 1,270 g clinchers, and I assure you it is not the same as riding a 2,000 wheelset. The nearly 2 lb difference makes for an amazing change in the feel of the ride, and that is not even counting any minor effects on speed that the lower weight would have. Compound that with similar weight savings throughout the construction of the whole bike, and you really have something special. Try it for yourself before you say it isn't so.