Originally Posted by
spectastic
anyone tried the swift side by side with the b17? I should've done it today, but didn't think of doing it. I did sit on a narrow and standard b17 side by side, and I think the standard b17 is nicer, with more support. But then again, neither were broken in..
I do it all the time. I have Pros, a B17N and a Swift. Honestly, I don't notice any difference from one model to the other but then I'm not all that sensitive to saddle differences.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
That's fine and all and it's great you've found a saddle. But the reality of it is that for a lot of people saddles without cutouts and especially brooks/leather saddles cause some serious junk numbness, which I can tell you is really, really bad. Not to mention that Brooks saddles are really narrow. Other leather saddles are narrower.
Brooks makes
the Imperial line of saddles with cutouts. They were making the Imperial line in the 1890s before the current fad of cutouts.
I would also say that the reality of genital numbness is a problem for
some people, not necessarily
a lot of people. Personally, if I want to put my equipment to sleep, nothing does a better job of it than a saddle with a cutout. For me, the cutout cuts off blood flow more effectively than a tourniquet would. I've never experienced numbness with a Brooks of any kind, although I haven't tried the Imperials.