Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Ann Arbor, MI
Bikes: 15 Kinesis Racelight 4S, 76 Motebecane Gran Jubilée, 17 Dedacciai Gladiatore2, 12 Breezer Venturi, 09 Dahon Mariner, 12 Mercier Nano, 95 DeKerf Team SL, 19 Tern Rally, 21 Breezer Doppler Cafe+, 19 T-Lab X3, 91 Serotta CII, 23 3T Strada
I gotta admit that I'm blown away by this general understanding of "countersteering" that's being discussed here! I mean, what's "counter" about it??
I grew up in a minibike/MTB/automotive world where countersteering mean turning against (i.e. counter) the direction of rotation in a slide. As in, if your rear wheel(s) slides towards the outside of a right hand turn initiating a clockwise rotation, you steer counter-clockwise. That's what I've always called countersteering.
Weighting the bar in the direction you want to turn is just how steer. At speeds and arcs where leaning the bike can describe the line you want, that's all you do. At low speeds and tight arcs, you throw in turning the bar. I've always found it simple like that.
I even had a motorcycle for a few years in the mid-'90s and rode with a group of older, experienced bikers who taught me how to run the back roads at speed and handle the throttle roll-off induced jacking of a Laverda v-twin when slowing for a turn, and I don't recall anyone ever calling pressing on the bar countersteering.
Clearly I'm in some kind of a minority here, but I'm curious as to what y'all call countersteering as I know it? Maybe I mixed up terms in my youth and just never got straightened out?