BTW I am a great believer in recumbents. I have both a recumbent bike and trike. That means that I have the proper tool for the ride at hand. Further I fully believe that most cyclist would be better served if they rode a recumbent. The comfort, view, and safety of a bent trumps all the arguments about being a "real cyclist" on a DF bike. Most all cyclist will ride further and faster on a bent, I did.