View Single Post
Old 01-22-16 | 12:53 PM
  #37  
RedandBlack's Avatar
RedandBlack
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
From: Chicagoland

Bikes: '14 Surly LHT

Originally Posted by gauvins
Frankly, as you are touring is a first world region, there is probably no need to sweat the details that much -- whatever is missing can probably be purchased on the road, whatever is useless can be discarded or mailed back.

As weight is largely overrated, I would suggest that you want to err on the too-much-stuff side. You'll learn to get rid of unnecessary items in due time.

1. I would draw your attention to the bear canister, though -- it is mandated in several national parks. See here to find out what REI has to say about this. Even if you were to avoid National Parks, you might want to ask yourself why the NPS requires bear-proof canister rather than merely throwing a bag over a branch (bears are good climbers).

I have some time to think about this one considering I won't need it in Utah. I'll probably end up getting one as I leave CO and can mail it home as I roll out of bear country.

2. You plan to pack flannel Ts and pants. If by flannel you actually mean brushed cotton, I would bet that you'll come to regret your decision. Cotton is arguably one of the worst fabric for outdoor activities. (It weighs a ton once wet, and takes forever to dry). Synthetics or merino (I personally prefer the latter -- more comfortable and not as likely to smell (not so) funny).

I've cut the flannel shirt for being low weight to function. I've just checked and my long underwear is 60% cotton. Might be time to upgrade. Maybe I can get another base layer and double it up if things get really cold.

3. If you can figure a way to ride without a computer, you'll save weight and, more importantly, worry less about theft/damages (shocks, water, etc). A fairly cheap tablet gets you a long way on the road to connected living.

I was looking into a tablet because the weight is so low. However, I would like to do a blog that includes photos and some short videos. This requires a decent amount of memory, RAM, and a SD Card reader. I'm looking into some really small options.

4. Some people like to navigate with the help of the sun and stars (and the occasional road sign). I can't help but rely on a dedicated GPS. I would forget maps downloaded to a smartphone as a primary nav tool (unless you can positively recharge it every single day, or are comfortable with the occasional low-tech navigation). Bike GPS also has to be recharged every day, but if/when you run out of battery power, you still have your smartphone somewhere in your kit, and can use it in an emergency. (it means GPS + downloaded maps to your phone + tablet).

This is something I've been debating. I don't have a smart phone and don't plan and getting one anytime soon due to the cost. A GPS would be nice, but I'm worried it would just tell me to take the highway or something stupid like that. The plan so far is to use paper ACA and local maps. Any suggestions?

5. Somewhere among the comments, someone has suggested getting rid of the mug/bowl -- I would not. You want a pot/kettle to "cook" (boil water added to whatever you'll eat) and something else to drink tea or coffee. If you want to keep weight to an absolute minimum, look at the seppou insulated titanium mugs. Will keep your luggage light, as well as your wallet

Me and you have different idea of light on the wallet. $54 for a mug is insane! I am thinking is going with just a plastic or Titanium mug that will fit in the stowaway pot.

have fun. should be great.

Thanks!
Originally Posted by CliffordK
Chain life apparently varies considerably. Under pretty harsh conditions, maybe 1000 to 2000 miles per chain. Under ideal conditions, significantly more. Leave the chain on too long, and you blow out your cassette with the first chain (I think the new cassettes wear faster than the old freewheels).

So, 5000 miles, with a generally well lubed chain, mostly dry, mostly pavement (dirt?). You'd probably be pushing it to last for the trip. 2 chains would probably do it. Really bad, wet, dirty, muddy conditions, even up to 5 chains

As mentioned, for the kind of mileage you're wanting to do, start with good new consumables (chains, tires, etc).

Good to know. I think I'll carry a couple of extra links and pins and pick up a new chain when I need it.
Originally Posted by saddlesores
prolly won't have a problem with gear/brake cables, but they're light,
carry one spare long one each....do cut off the unusable end before
you leave. but cable housing? no.

Cable housing has been cut.

that pedal/headset combo is a beast. leave it. need more hex keys,
go over all the bolts on your bike, including on the bag attachments.
you got a torx to adjust your disc brake pads, or remove the disc?

It's a LHT so it has Canti, not Disc brakes. I'll start looking at all the bolts to figure out what kind of hex's I need.

you got more electronics that i got in my whole house. how much do
you really need? selfie stick? just. say. no.

I'm taking a decent amount because I'm planning on making a blog and filming much of this trip. I have, however, cut it down a bit since posting the original list. As for the Selfie stick.... I know, I know. I died a little inside adding that to the list. However, it's not for taking selfies (I doubt anyone wants to see my ugly mug). I've seen people use them to get better/more interesting angles while filming so it seems like a good accessory for my GoPro.
Originally Posted by indyfabz
Low riders can present ground clearance issues. And you lack of a front shock should make things interesting. Make sure you stop into the Wise River Club in the Montana town of the same name. Decent fish & chips along with other things. And the 25 mile descent into town is very nice. The Pioneer Mountains Scenic Byway is one of the paved sections of the GDMBR. It used to be dirt but was paved back around 2008 or so. I have ridden that part twice and have plans to do it again this June. The alpine meadow section a bit beyond Crystal Park is beautiful.

Thanks for the suggestions. Also, great pics. The lack of shocks is going to make some parts slow going. I've seen a few people do the GDMBT with a full load set up so it seems to be possible.

Make sure you have bug spray. The mosquitoes were so bad we couldn't stop for more than a quick photo. Even when I rode it in 2014 and stopped at the summit in the rain to put on rain gear I got attacked.

Forgot that one. It's been added

BTW...Make sure you can lift your bike. You are likely to encounter a situation like the one I faced on the Mickelson Trail last June: There was no way around the blockage.

I'm going to make sure I can carry it at least 20 paces and lift it at least knee high before I set out.
Thanks for the replies!
RedandBlack is offline  
Reply