I searched about 20+ higher end European/Asian bike shops and almost all include a similar pic to the one below in all of their track frame pictures.

I swear, this is the only forum that gives people a hard time about wanting tight track geo/tight fork clearances....yet when you talk to any of the exotic/boutique bike dealers all over the world, I've been told that's one of the first questions asked by customers.

They'll specifically say in emails: "May need a little hand filing to get your specific tire to fit."

But yeah, I'm the crazy one for wanting a proper old school track bike with 75+/75+, low rake fork, and tight geo with the tire almost touching the downtube.....


But like always, everyone here is the expert.

Typical frame seller shop pic showing a bike.....










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