Originally Posted by Willbird

Sodium is not harmful, in fact they are finding that reducing sodium too low CAUSES health issues. Active people who sweat a lot, and who replace that fluid with water NEED sodium, and can get very sick and even die without it, literally drowning in pure water with no electrolytes.

Healthy fats are GOOD for you...much of the conventional wisdom about dietary saturated fat having any negative impact on health or lipid profiles is also proving to be wrong. If you have paid attention to what has happened to peoples health and waistlines as they followed the FDA down the rabbit hole you might think listening to them is the LAST thing a smart person would do. Those folks after all told us for the last 2 generations that fairly "deadly" trans fat margarine was healthier than in fact healthy BUTTER :-).

Originally Posted by Willbird

I agree that IDEALLY one should be able to consume enough healthy low net carb fruits and vegetables to not need to supplement in any way, BUT when the alarm clock goes off at 3:45, and your out the door at 4am, and 1/2 of your waking days food is at work crammed into a 20 minute lunch break things are not "ideal" :-).

Originally Posted by Willbird

And I'm sorry, but most Obese folks cannot just start to eat "wholesome foods" and magically slim down to 15% body fat without anything else in the picture. Once you are obese, you may be screwed as far as that goes, now if a person did that BEFORE coming Obese it might save them from that fate.