Originally Posted by
350htrr
Yes, I understand and agree that using a motor is a different kind of advantage, my point was, was trying to be...
If a pure bicycle is a single speed and you add 27 speeds to one for the same ride and get a 5% to 200% torque advantage that could also be considered "cheating, No? And so, one must always say the number of speeds the bike has, or one is lying about ones accomplishment compared to a "real" bicycle... No? Just like one must always say one is riding an E-Assist bike or one is lying about ones accomplishment, which I agree one must.
I'm not an engineer but to me using a lower gear going up hill is spreading the effort over more turns of the pedal thus reducing the effort required for each revolution. You go slower but it's still your power not anyone or anything else's.
Adding a motor even to assist radically changes the experience just as if you decided to hold onto a passing slow-moving motor vehicle. It may well be more fun but you still haven't cycled up that hill.