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Old 07-05-16 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
Once again, the CPSC with the weight of US federal law does not agree with your definition.

https://www.cpsc.gov/PageFiles/93295/low.pdf




The CFR reg you noted is just what specifications an electric bicycle must meet to be classified as an "electric bicycle." The states make the decision as to when Electric bicycles are allowed on paths designated as "motorized vehicles prohibited."


Washington State is an example where "electric bicycles" are allowed on multiuse trails and bikelanes. However, they are NOT allowed on trails specified as "motorized vehicles prohibited." This includes sidewalks.
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Old 07-05-16 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
I'm sure it's 'fun', but you like some others here are missing the point I was trying to make in the OP. It's not about me or people my age, it's about young healthy people taking on physical and mental challenges by motorising. I find it sad and worry that it may become the norm.
And again, you took the original way of doing the pilgrimage, walking, and went with the quicker and easier on yourself way. It probably saddens and worries actual religious pilgrims that they have to share the trail in question with adventure seekers and bikers, too. Everything has a perspective, you chose an easier method than others, others chose yet an easier way of doing things than you.
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Old 07-05-16 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MixedRider
The CFR reg you noted is just what specifications an electric bicycle must meet to be classified as an "electric bicycle." The states make the decision as to when Electric bicycles are allowed on paths designated as "motorized vehicles prohibited."


Washington State is an example where "electric bicycles" are allowed on multiuse trails and bikelanes. However, they are NOT allowed on trails specified as "motorized vehicles prohibited." This includes sidewalks.
True, but by federal law they are not motor vehicles.
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Old 07-05-16 | 02:01 PM
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This thread has been circling the bowl for a while.
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Old 07-05-16 | 02:09 PM
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flussssshhhhhhhhh - there it goes.
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Old 07-05-16 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
And again, you took the original way of doing the pilgrimage, walking, and went with the quicker and easier on yourself way. It probably saddens and worries actual religious pilgrims that they have to share the trail in question with adventure seekers and bikers, too. Everything has a perspective, you chose an easier method than others, others chose yet an easier way of doing things than you.
Your perspective is one of ignorance.

You don't know what you're talking about, get back when you do.
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Old 07-05-16 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
True, but by federal law they are not motor vehicles.

Correct, but you need to be careful. 25mph is the point which a vehicle w/a motor is actually classified as a "motor vehicle." (40 CFR 85.1703 )


Go ahead and tour on an Electric Bicycle if it floats your boat. But do not take them places you should not be.
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Old 07-05-16 | 02:26 PM
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Yes, very nice....
This is a touring site. You make it sound like you are a victim of having to read this site. Everyone is a victim of some sort of discrimination. I get it.
What does your little blurb have to do with anything on a TOURING site?
I agree, it doesn't have anything to do with touring, but in large part, regardless of the title, neither does this thread, at least not anymore. And I didn't find this thread because I wandered into the Touring subforum, I found it because I typically peruse all new posts on the entire forum. This thread has hit on topics beyond touring, and that is what I'm speaking to. Some people in this thread have called out people for riding e-bikes (beyond simply critiquing where they ride them), and in doing so they have also strayed beyond the scope of touring. Its not as if only those who do tour have license to speak off-topic in this subforum. There wasn't a secret passphrase or handshake to gain entry. And no, I'm not a victim for having to read this site, I'm just telling you my story, I'm just making a point that cycling in any form is not limited to a narrow definition put forth by any single individual.
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Old 07-05-16 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
Your perspective is one of ignorance.

You don't know what you're talking about, get back when you do.
As is most of the hating on people who ride ebikes here.

You chose to do a religious pilgrimage traditionally done by foot for non religious reasons on an allowable but easier method. Why do you feel the right to criticize others who do it in an easier way than you, when there are more than likely religious walkers looking at you with disdain?

Originally Posted by MixedRider
Correct, but you need to be careful. 25mph is the point which a vehicle w/a motor is actually classified as a "motor vehicle." (40 CFR 85.1703 )
Oh yeah, no doubt there, just like at 35MPH a moped legally becomes a motorcycle in Michigan, regardless if it meets all the other requirements.

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Anyways, since I'm not the one that wants to get the thread closed down, and I'm not going to convince anyone their disdain of something that affects them in no way is irrational and unnecessary, I'm outta here.
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Old 07-05-16 | 06:05 PM
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IMHO This thread really should have been closed, or moved, several pages ago. However, the Mods clearly decided not to, that is their decision. .
In all honesty, the Staff was unaware of the goings on in this thread (site is too big to look at every post), but since someone was kind enough to hit the report button, I tend to agree that the thread has run its course.

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