I can't speak to those particular models, but I purchased a Canyon Ultimate Al 9.0 several years ago. Conincidentally, I was also in Japan at the time and trying to get better value than you get on imported bikes in Japan.Tthe markups are atrocious. That was a great bike, great value, and the whole purchasing process was painless. I recommended Canyon to a couple of friends after that and they all reported the same. Keep in mind that you might get dinged for taxes on delivery. I don't recall exactly how much it was, but I remember it being lower than I expected, like 6000 yen or something like that.