I too am sorry to say that Assos did not work for me. I tried their latest shorts and tights and although they are constructed great and liked the ' man lounge' the chamois did not sit in the right place. The older stuff did. PI P.R.O. Has the same issue for me. For now Santini and DeMarchi are the ones that fit me best. If it matters I could stand to lose about 12lbs to be in the normal range(6' 1" at 200lbs 36"waist).