because except for the Select and Pro they will all stretch to the point of needing lacing a lot sooner than they used to, and I've heard they're discontinuing the Select

backing up to add the Pro, but the point is, Brooks has changed to make them easier to break in, which pretty much means they're not going to last as long, and even my B17 Special is showing-through frame - it took a lot of stretch bolt this summer.

I never use Proofide on my Brooks saddles - instead I use Obenauff's, which has so much beeswax, it smells like honey.