juls, what is the tubing on that 420? I have an '83 (men's) 420 I bought as a frame, used and repainted, so I never saw the tubing sticker. (It's not high end- weighs and feels too heavy - but it would be fun to know what it is.) Same fork, seatstays/caps and dropouts as best I can tell. It's my winter/rain/city fix gear and a very good bike for its place in life, the best I have ever had by a lot.