I found the link later on in the thread! Pretty good price, I could put them on my commuter but I already have tires that are faring..suitably, and plan on getting nokian a10s for later in the winter, plus some skinner (maybe 28) somewhat puncture resistant tires for a new road bike, I wish I could go all out! I haven't been cycling for long (maybe 5 years total of my life) but I've so far gotten something like one flat, ever, so it is not dire. But its good to know I can get these for cheap, they're the perfect size/specs for the bike I use to commute.