I do begin apologising for reviving such an old thread but because I am looking to buy this frame I am a bit puzzled about one thing. [MENTION=164476]Scrodzilla[/MENTION] mentioned that a friend has the 50cm with a crankset of 165mm and that the tyre a 700/23c touched the crank. Now the size chart show a difference or only 9mm between the 52cm and the 50cm between the bottom bracket and the fork. Now looking at the picture posted by [MENTION=385036]Owlex[/MENTION] it seems like there is way more than 9mm between the tyre and the crankset, can someone please explain? I am assuming that the tyre and crankset size in the picture is the same as mentioned by [MENTION=164476]Scrodzilla[/MENTION]