Originally Posted by TMonk

On that note 1) is the biggest appeal to me; I've grown wary of road riding/riding on the street for the last couple years. I'm a rider who's confident and skilled enough to ride on the road with ease and even in tight traffic situations like many of you here, but I try to avoid it - it's just dangerous and I don't like cars. You can be completely in control but there is still that drunk ******* or raging idiot that will ruin your day.

For that reason I've been doing more and more of my (weekday) training on Fiesta Island - a closed 4 mi loop with no intersections. Plus it offers a controlled environment where I can experiment with precise power-based workouts which is fun for me. If I didn't have that, I might default to the trainer, and even then still I'm considering it...