[QUOTE=bashley;20082561]Thanks for the tip, Gronck. Pretty sure you're right because I believe Jeff Jones, himself, has suggested his bar tends to work better with a shorter stem.

I've also read some tales of folks who's initial response to the Jone H-bar was a downer, but after fiddling with its horizontal tilt and stem length, they came to like the bar. I'd assume, though, that you tried it out in different setups and still it couldn't win you over.[/QUOTE
I tried everything: different stem lengths, height,grips, tilt. It was on my purpose built gravel bike(Rove Ti frame). Setup is great with drop bars,but, went to wide gravel tires and other mods for rough and steep gravel so spent the money convinced the Jones would work,but , it didn't. Flat bars work great on the bike with the same rise as the drops had. I am 70 and not flexible. I found the Jones put my wrists is a painful position and that the other handholds were pretty well useless. The Jones puts you in a very different position on the bike. My trial period was 7 months and many k of riding. So, once again, try before you buy. As you have a Mariposa and know Mike Barry I'll assume you are in Canada and the Jones bars are very expensive here.