I hope I also did this right and thru the magical interweb this gets back to you, thanks for replying first off and I can put both feet flat on the ground without crushing my nuts on the top tube but feel like as far as a track bike geometry its to big for how hard I wanna go ya know? If it was a geared bike I think it'd be cool, but its not.. I don't wanna buy a frame because someone wants to get rid of it not caring whether it fits me or not but don't really have a choice because I don't have yuppy ass bike shop money.. Everything I built this bike with is super nice, I just don't wanna have to learn by trial and error anymore than I have already since I got into it. Thanks dude