I used them and really liked them with a 3x6 speed setup for touring. My bike got bumped while in the rack and work bad enough that it knocked the derailleur out of adjustment and wasn't able to index it. I just flipped the right shifter over to friction and rode home. I kept meaning to fix the indexing, but it was so easy to use that I never got around to it. It's really good for riding on the hoods. Not as easy to shift from the drops. If you stick with Suntour, you could look for Command shifters, but those can be pretty dear.