Old 06-29-18 | 07:49 PM
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bikebike3
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Originally Posted by 2_i
usually waiting at least 5 min for the glue to dry and less than 10 min. For cleaning lighter fluid is good or paint thinner. Too much glue can hurt but in practice it needs to be way too much to hurt.To be honest, good patch kit is better than cheap, but cheap should work well enough for most situations.
I'll keep that in mind (wait at least 5 mins but no more than 10), last night it was like 85 degrees and very humid, so the heat makes it dry fast but the humidity slows it down, weather dictates but I think I need to wait a bit more, and NOT also put glue on the patch.




Originally Posted by bikebike3
. .. when I inflate it, the patch doesn't stretch with the tube and then the sides of the patches peel up. .
Originally Posted by AnkleWork
That seems like poor preparation of the area to be patched or poor technique.

Did you ever find and remove the cause of the original puncture? How is the patch leaking -- from a new puncture or from around the edges or some other way?

Find and follow a good patching procedure from a reliable source. Properly installed patches are permanent.
I checked a tutorial on my phone after I did the patch last night but I think I added too much glue (put glue on patch also) and didn't let the glue dry long enough before putting the patch on it. The original patch I don't think I let the glue dry at all but it held up for ~250 miles, I just glued it and held it in place and did that on the spot and rode away in about 15 minutes. I checked the tutorial on my phone AFTER doing the patch last night which ended up failing because I wanted to double check but thought I had it right the first time. I need to just put a note in the patch kit box.

I don't think there's a particle in the tire but I haven't felt around or shaken it out. But the patch re-leaked basically from glue not fusing together anymore. I put under water and it leaked from the original hole under the patch.




Originally Posted by Bigbus
Can we assume that since you're not sure which side of the patch to put down, you are removing the clear cellophane-like material from the patch before applying it to the dried glue? I use the same elcheapo kits from eBay and never had a problem with the same hole leaking twice. And don't put any glue on the patch, just the tire?
I put the right side down. The patches I got have foil on the side that touches the tire and the cellophane is on the outside (and a tutorial said you CAN just leave the cellophane but I removed it anyway - leaving it might reduce the stretchiness of the orange gooey border on the patch which I want stretching as much as possible once the tube is re inflated.

Maybe I also need to wait longer once the patch is applied. The only other time I patched a tube was this hole and it held up for ~250 miles but I didn't wait very long to put the tube back in the tire once it was patched, maybe waited 10 mins. ~250 miles should be more than that, supposedly a properly applied patch is permanent. The rim tape is in good condition.


I peeled off the patch I did last night which leaked anyway and I'll sand it down again and try some paint thinner (nothing too strong like stripper which would probably melt the tire). If it still fails, I'll install new tube.
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