Originally Posted by
Kontact
In this thread we had two different people assemble mystery bikes out of unknown combinations of parts that resulted in functional problems that may or may not have been the result of chainline issues.
So it is science, if you pay attention to everything involved in building a bike rather than assuming that problems are the result of uncontrollable random discontinuities.
For you or anyone having the problems described in this thread:
1. What make and model frame is it, and what is the correct chainline for that frame and the speed crank used?
2. What make and model crank is it, is that crank designed to work with that sort of frame, and is the BB spindle the recommended one for that use?
3. What make and model front derailleur is it, and it is designed for used with that kind of frame, crank and seat tube thickness.
You can grope around in the dark, or you can learn about bicycle mechanics and stop leaving things to random chance. I've never worked in a bike shop where it was necessary to just "try stuff" to see if it would work. Everything has a manual or a spec, regardless of whether it is Asian, US or European. Use them.
Your problem is that you have gotten away with doing things without understanding them for long enough to think that is normal. It isn't normal to not know how the parts of your bike are speccd.
LOL, we're many, many posts into this thread where plenty of information has been supplied about frames, cranks, FD's , etc., yet for all your scientific specificiationism i didn't see you recommend a single fact in terms of BB spindle length or parts to match up. Others did , and didn't even need to be condescending about it.
It's not even worth debating, I will continue to depend in my intuition and apparently amazing luck in assembling bikes since 99% of the time I get the results I want. I'll be sure to report back after I've tried some random parts i picked by throwing darts at a catalog.