Originally Posted by McBTC

So, we're seeing pretty much identical-looking models (with invisible welds you can hardly tell the difference) with CF being ~$500 more. Alloy, however, has gotten good enough to where paying more for CF, even to get more in the way of comfort, isn't a good enough trade-off (especially if you're running 25s or even 28mm tires) because, despite what people think about the longevity of alloy vs. steel, alloy still seems more robust than CF.