This all brings up a good point, I have a Berkley fish scale I use. Got a frame the seller was very detailed with the weight of, 4lb 12.7 oz frame and 1lb 8.8oz fork = 6lb 5.5oz total on his "Postal scale". Frame came and weighs 7lb on my scale, checked my scale with 1, 2 and 10lb weights and it is spot on. By itself not a huge deal or deal breaker per se, but why is nothing ever straightforward? The weight was just one of several things that collectively add up to quite a bit more than I like to let go.