Originally Posted by
texaspandj
We've seen this before on the paint thread.
The frame from Greece for sale on the bay has:
The seat tube decal running the wrong way. -
Um, there's a right way? It reads left to right when horizontally viewed, but of course horizontal can be 2 ways, too. I'm not sure the custom frames ridden by the pro's were decaled any way other than how the builder / painter wanted them. Was it the Ironman Carbon that had the ST "CENTURION" decal? That may have been the only one, and that placement may have been related to the Carbons being ridden by the pros.
The lugs look like from the Expert.
- The BB lugs are squared off, not pointed. Just like @seypat's Dave Scott signature model, Asian market.
Curiously there's fender tabs for the rear. Those drop outs aren't on any Centurion we've seen except maybe @
seypat Asian version.
- Those are Shimano SFR dropouts, and they're similar to @seypat's Dave Scott, but the dropout is more compact. The tube ends are, however, squared off like his.
The cable guides are completely different than other Centurions.
-They are single-loop cable guides, vs. other Centurions that had double-loop cable guides. The Prestige had single-loop cable guides. The BB shell cable guides are the same as on the Ironman and Comp TA, braze-on tubes.
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fleslider can probably add more.
I'm fairly satisfied it's a Centurion from WSI, and Japanese-made. For whom, and by whom, who knows?
Y8C4620 is an example serial #
The paint quality is the same high-end that the Centurions from Japan had. The white is not a bright white, more of an eggshell. While the photographed lighting may show a different color, the magenta/fuscia/whatever seems to be the same as the Miami Vice.
The
font on the DT and ST have the "ENTURI" letters joined together, unlike the Comp TA but like the 85 Ironman and the Prestige. However, the
letters are edged like the Turbo and Comp TA letters, not shaded like the 85 Ironman and Prestige letters. The decal at the base of the seat tube just says "Japan."
That fork doesn't look quite like the unicrown of the later 80's and doesn't appear to have the same petite slope as the Turbos or the Comp TA's, etc. It's 650c, and the seller does not appear to have the forks to match his frames.