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Old 04-28-19 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
If it cures his noise problem , whats the issue ?
The OP stated that the noise came from the spoke hitting the RD. My take (and I could be wrong) is that adding wire and solder to the spoke doesn't affect that issue and may exacerbate it - the soldered joint may project even more. I guess the wire job could pull the spoke out of the way slightly, though. But reading Mr. Brandts' comments it seems that he said that the tying and soldering didn't add any stiffness but it didn't take any stiffness away.. So if it didn't hit the RD it probably wouldn't hurt anything. I think that the OP's solution (to relace the rear wheel) was more effective.

I agree with Andrew that the overlap would not be needed on a front wheel with rim brakes.

Originally Posted by ridingfool
Can't be a bad aprroice if that's how meilestien does there wheels at about six thousand bucks for a set must have some merrit
Disagree. Just because some company uses 100 year old manufacturing practices that have since been pretty much proven ineffective, does NOT mean that those practices are good ones. They may be good marketing. They may attract a certain type of customer. But it does not mean that the practice has technical merit. (Also, in looking at Meilestein's website, I don't see any of their current wheels with tied/soldered spokes. But I might have missed something: its a pretty screwed up site IMHO).

I could just as easily flip your point around and say that given that Campagnolo and Shimano and Bontrager and Zipp and Cofidis and Enve don't wrap and solder their spokes,it is likely that the practice adds no value (and adds weight).

Jobst Brandt did a test:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/tied-soldered.html
with commentary here:
https://yarchive.net/bike/tying-and-soldering.html

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