No I am talking about a pedal assisted bicycle. Not a motorcycle which uses a throttle.

I get it they do both have motors and if we wanted to be pedantic yes technically you could call a pedal assisted bicycle a "motorcycle" because it does have a motor and is a cycle but let's be real here. I am not discussing throttled cycles but bikes you actually have to pedal to get anywhere. Not quite sure really what is hard to understand and why we as cyclists would want to argue about this all the time. Are we afraid of something? I mean I can understand hating e-bikes if all you see is some nasty heavy throttle monstrosity with cheap tourney or low end SRAM crap but we aren't talking about that.