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Old 07-22-20 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bikebikebike
This is the 50+ board ,right? The discussion on hydration here makes about as much sense as trusting the stop light enough to blindly cross the street.
Not paying attention to appropriate hydration especially in this age group with its morbidities conditions and medications is disturbing.
People have GPS, speedometers, power meters, and cadence meters and don't bother to look at the scale.
After your second quart you need to start using your brain.
Sadly one of the signs of disorders of hydration and thermoregulation is impaired thinking.
If you're thinking is impaired before you start, this is not considered a good thing.
Trusting your thirst is better than being entirely stupid, that still does not hit the threshold of actually being halfway intelligent
And the only doctor you're going to need , was the one on the HMS Beagle.
Heatstroke is real and the risk gets worse with age and other impairments.
Ill considered hydration strategies that lack balance are a big risk.
If you were pushing hard enough it's hot enough or it's far enough that you're going beyond 2 quarts and/or a quart an hour, you need a well thought out plan and some real science.
it's rough enough trying to avoid brain injuries from the outside. your kidneys are only so smart.
I see that this is your first post on this thread. From your post, I assume you have read the entire thread. I experience your post as being critical of the entire thread, i.e. that there's no redeeming value in it. I happen to have a negative view of negative criticism. It's not useful for anyone. So let us have your positive criticism. What should we all be doing that no one has advocated in this thread? And do you mean you really think that riders can consume over a quart an hour for hour after hour? And what's your mention of a scale about (my emboldening)? It's long been known that an athlete who maintains their weight in the heat for an hour or more is over-hydrated, possibly dangerously so.

For the gentle reader who has made it this far down the thread, a little science might be good to look at, here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1872071/
Athletes need to be reassured that a mild degree of weight loss over an endurance event is acceptable, whereas no weight loss represents over-hydration. Drinking according to the perception of thirst appears safe. Specific advice on hourly volume intake is ill advised, but would typically be between 400 and 800 ml per hour.
US Army hot weather advice is to drink no more than 1 liter/hour: https://ke.army.mil/bordeninstitute/...drationPDF.pdf
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