Originally Posted by
Spellscape
Im asking because as I can see old pumps on sale are one that fit in frame directly or ordinary that fits in holes on top and bottom? Sellers on internet really saying different things..
A lot of frame pumps that have a scallop at the tip of the pump handle for the top tube to sit in, also have a hole or dimple at the center of the scallop to accomodate a pump retainer peg or spike.

Like this one on my Blackburn frame pump.