Originally Posted by
Maelochs
I am pretty much planning on going with Microshift when they release their Ultegra 6800 or 8000 clone group set ... and they will , because there will be a market for it.
Originally Posted by
WhyFi
Is there an assumption that Shimano, themselves, will not fill this void? I think it's a pretty safe bet that they'll have a mechanical, 11-speed group with both rim and disc versions, probably under the Tiagra label.
Not clue if that is their plan. And if it is .... how much more will it weigh? Will it be Ultegra quality?
Tiagra is good -- I have 9- and 10-speed Tiagra on a couple frames---but nothing like Ultegra. Will Shimano upgrade Tiagra that much?
When one of my 6800 brifters broke, I could have replaced it with 105 for not a lot of cash, or with Ultegra for a healthy chunk .... while I ma not wealthy like Badger6, I had already spent the cash to build a good bike and I was not willing to cut corners. I went with the higher quality (and I know 105 well because I have it on two bikes.) If the potential "new" Tiagra isn't on par .... and if the new (equally potential) Microshift is....
But no one knows. Maybe Shimano figures people who are willing to spring for Ultegra or better, are willing to pay for and eager to buy DI, and won't offer an 11-speed alternative. I figure most people who are willing to spring for Ultegra are willing to go for, or are doing it specifically to get, DI ... based on the habits and comments of a group I rode with a little while back. So maybe 105 will be the only 11-speed mechanical, with maybe a DI option or maybe not.
For me, the question isn't about Tiagra, but whether Shimano will release an upgraded 105 with the weight and feel of Ultegra, at a 105 price. Again, no one knows.