Originally Posted by
sjanzeir
instead of splashing out on a brand new top-of-the-line Eclipse X22 or Verge X11, find a nice used entry-level Eclipse D16 or Verge D9.
yes or a established dahon d8 or p8 (helios/speed/boardwalk/mu)
then swapping groupset, crankset,BB is fairly easy but requires a few specific tools
As I put in my helios rebuilt thread, you can fine easily 9 or 10 speed good second hand groupset as many sport fanatics upgrade their kits all the time.
if you start with D8/P8, later having better wheels, you can put together a good 2x9 whichis simple cheaper and forgiving (easy setup) and.
go to 11s is expensive, specific and required a large rear frame, most older folders are 130mm so not suitable for 11 speeds