Nice additions to the thread. After reading the section on saddles in "Bike for Life" I'm getting a bit skeptical about my B17 purchase but will give it a try. Next up would be the Selle. I have my saddle height a bit on the low side right now and difference in bar height and seat height is 2-3in, seat level. Weather has turned again here so haven't ridden. Wow, nice collection of bikes!