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Old 04-27-23 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbullet
I do not really agree. If we do the mats, some huge mismatches come to our attention:

2600 EUR: 2015 Canyon middle tier, SRAM Force 22, 6.8 kg: See here (I bought from another brand, 6.65 kg, 2300 EUR)
3200 EUR: The same 2015 Canyon middle tier bike, adjusted for inflation to 2023 See here
+400 EUR: add increase in price in 2023 from moving to disk brakes and electronic shifting
Result: 3600 EUR – cost of Canyon middle tier in 2023, with disk brakes and electronic group set, 700 grams heavier.

However, the market price in 2023 is 5000 EUR for Canyon middle tier, Ultegra DI2 (SRAM Force AXS equivalent), 7.48 kg See here
It shows an unjustified increase of 1400 EUR. In fact, this unjustified increase is even bigger, because carbon parts that account for 60-80% of costs are very much labor intensive, and labor (salaries) cost increase was much lower than inflation.
And… Canyon is still on the lower price tier on the market. If somebody makes similar calculation for bigger players (Trek, Bianchi, Specialized, etc.), he or she might come up with bigger figures and with a few hundreds grams heavier bike.

That is why I say the price evolution is insane and the outcome (increase in weight with almost zero advantages) is not a healthy evolution.
I'm not sure which part of my post you don't agree with as I wasn't commenting on price other than the fact that a super lightweight spec is now more expensive.

Canyon still offer a mechanical ultegra spec bike with alloy wheels for Euro 3200, which is pretty good value. The disc brakes make it heavier than the 2015 model, but it's not a big deal really. The Euro 5k models have pretty high end carbon wheels and integrated cockpit, which also pushes up the cost. Canyon prices have been stable since at least 2019, so it's not a 2023 thing. In fact they are fractionally cheaper than last year.
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